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Thursday,
July 24, 2008 3:01 am
Hand Evaluation – Q bids (
Obligatory Q )
PITBULLS:
We feel Q bids should be
obligatory only
with "serious 3NT" theory with the majors opposite unlimited hands in forcing to game auctions. When an auction
is “limit raise or better” like a splinter you require a “death response” to
show the lower range This style of obligatory Q bidding means that there is an unlimited hand across from you so you are Q bidding as a courtesy in a game forcing auction. All other Q bids
in Bridge are in accordance with standard bidding , they show extra . Do not
Q bid just for the sake of Q bidding . Evaluate your
hand first so when you have something more than you have shown already
or indicated systemically, by all means Q bid. Failure to Q bid in these
auctions does not mean you do not
have the control , it just means "you are all
in" with your previous bid.
I was kibitizing Moss & Gittleman
& they had this auction. ♠AQ10xx
♥xx
♦xxx ♣xxx ,
Fred opened 1♦ vul
& a 2♥ nv pre-empt by the opponent. This hand made a negative
double & LHO jumped to 4♥ & Fred bid 4NT. This was alerted as showing the
minors so Moss bid 5♦. Fred now bid 5♥ forcing the
hand to slam & looking for 7♦.
Do you make an obligatory Q bid ? I think you
are all in for your negative double & having nothing in the minors is a danger signal. I
retreat to 6♦ as if all partner needed was
one Ace for a grand why is he opening at the one level ? Anyway , Moss thought a Q bid was obligatory so Q bid 5♠. The next
bid was 7♦ & the opponents collected
+100 instead of -1370. A negative double is not forcing to game but can be unlimited. I think you have the
obligation to show your minimum range
first especially when you doubled at the 2 level with a flat 6 HCP.
The
inventers of Standard bidding thought that must be a way of telling partner
that you do not have
anything extra for your previous bidding. When you impose
"obligatory Q bids" on the partnership ,
this hand evaluation concept
goes out the window. You introduce ambiguity in the bidding. Does she or
does she not have extra when she Q bids ? The
"serious 3NT" allows courtesy Q bids in that you always have the
inference that she did not bid the 3NT Q bid in a game forcing auction. A Q bid as a serious slam try
& unlimited hands factor into the equation. Therefore ,
a Q bid does not necessarily show extra in specific major fit forcing
to game auctions. . You do not have this understanding in other auctions.
We feel you should revert to standard Q
bidding understandings. Q bids mean you interested in bigger & better
things. Partner should discourage or encourage these efforts not just be a robot for partners Q bidding efforts..
A hand came up tonight where
there was an “obligatory Q bid “ misunderstanding. A
splinter is limit raise or better & is not
forcing to game .
There is no need to impose obligatory Q
bids in these non forcing to game auctions. ♠AKxxx ♥Kxxx
♦Jxx ♣x with vul partner opening 1♠. You splinter
to 3♣ so partner bids 3♦ so now what ? You could have had a weak limit raise but you do not. With a weak limit raise , you would bid 3♠ , so a 3♥
Q bid should show extra. After
hearing 3♥ , opener
bids 4NT needing to know about the ♠ suit. ♠J109xx ♥AQ10x ♦AK
♣xx . Playing with
a 30 HCP deck & partner showing extra, there is no room for her extra
HCP’s other than in spades. Where are they ?
Partner shows 2 key cards so +1430 is cold.